Reforging 2.0: Consumables and Enchants

Update Aug 13: Blizzard has removed secondary stats from Flasks, and reduced the amount from enchants and food. The point of my original post is kind of moot, but I’ll leave it up anyway. You can still customize your secondary stats, just not to the high degree you could earlier in beta.

I have a love-hate relationship with reforging. I love using it to min-max or make a piece of subpar gear into something decent. I hate having to juggle hit and expertise caps (and having to use a reforging calculator to do it perfectly). Without hit and expertise, reforging is just about customizing your stats. No calculators or external tools required. All the good, none of the bad. So you can understand why I was initially a little disappointed at its removal.

I know the goal was to reduce the amount of extra work needed to be done in order to make a piece of gear usable. When you don’t need to valor upgrade, reforge, gem, and enchant something you can just equip it as soon as it drops. Unless, of course, it’s a neck, ring, or cloak. Then you’ll want to make sure you have an enchanting scroll ready for it.

Blizzard wasn’t kidding when they said they wanted fewer but more powerful enchants.

Consumables and Enchants in Warlords

Consumables on live servers are centered around agility. You can get 1300 agility from these, not that much when you have hunters running around with 30,000 agility. Enchants are also weak in the grand scheme of things. For example, 180 crit rating on a cloak when a hunter specializing in crit may have as much as 15,000 crit rating. Just a drop in the bucket. Let’s look at consumables and enchants in Warlords:

  • Flasks: 400 (cheap) or 500 (expensive) in any secondary stat
  • Food: 125 (cheap) or 150 (expensive) in any secondary stat
  • Neck: 131 in any secondary stat
  • Rings: 94 in any secondary stat (150 total)
  • Cloak: 250 in any secondary stat

So you can get 1219 secondary stats from consumables and enchants. Cool, but what does that number mean in a post-squish world? Well, the ilvl 660 cloak I was wearing had 89 crit and 77 mastery. That ought to put a 250 crit cloak enchant into perspective.

On live servers, my gear is dominated by haste and mastery, with crit being the lowest of the three. Without any reforging I have a 36.8% chance to crit. By prioritizing crit in the reforging, I can bump that up to 43.6%. That’s almost 7% crit from reforging.

Now let’s look at how much I can modify my stats in one direction just using raid consumables and enchants in Warlords at level 100. I used consumables and enchants appropriate to each spec’s secondary stat attunement in order to see the largest gains. I also had full raid buffs active.

Beast Mastery (Mastery):

  • Without consumables/enchants: 41.8% increased pet damage
  • With full consumables/enchants: 65.2% increased pet damage

Survival (Multistrike):

  • Without consumables/enchants: 29% chance to multistrike
  • With full consumables/enchants: 48.4% chance to multistrike

Marksmanship (Critical Hit):

  • Without consumables/enchants: 32.5% chance to crit
  • With full consumables/enchants: 44% chance to crit

Even without reforging it’s still possible to heavily weigh your stats in one direction, or even mix and match when it makes sense. You don’t have to focus on your specialization’s attunement either, but you’ll get a small 5% bonus if you do. For example, I was able to boost my haste from 14% to 26% as BM.


Become friends with your local enchanter and alchemist

These gains are big enough that I think I’d want to be using at least the cheap flasks and food at all times, even outside of raids. I like being able to customize my stat load out to such a degree, but I’m not sure I like that kind of reliance on consumables.

It’s to the point where I’m seriously considering dropping my jewelcrafting for alchemy. Furthermore, leveling cooking will be one of my first priorities after dinging 100.

Instead of using a reforging mount or porting back to town, you’ll want stacks of enchanting scrolls on hand for any time you need to switch specs. I can see the enchanters rubbing their hands in anticipation already.

I’m not saying I want this nerfed — I really like being able to min-max these stats — but I hope the relative cost of consumables and enchants is made slightly lower to compensate for their frequent use.

As with anything on beta, this is all subject to change.


9 thoughts on “Reforging 2.0: Consumables and Enchants”

  1. Any advice for a hunter with Enchanting/JC, should I drop JC for Alchemy or Engineering? I have every profession covered with Alts, so I’m open for anything on my main the hunter.

    1. In your situation, I’d probably switch JC for Engineering… but that’s just because I can’t imagine playing a non-engineer hunter. 🙂

      1. Thanks, advice taken, JC = gone Engineering = 580, good enough for the enchants for raid tonight! My alt Warrior can cut my gems from now on!

  2. So is my leather working and skinning gonna be sub optimal/worthless next xpac? I really hope that’s not what you’re telling me. I also hate being dependent on temporary things. I really hope that consumables don’t become a pvp thing too.

    1. No, there’s not going to be any major power bonuses tied to professions anymore. Nothing should be worthless. I meant I just wanted alchemy for the convenience and to save gold. I might think differently once I hear more about JC, of course. It obviously can’t be centered around gems anymore.

      1. I’m worried about the armor crafting profs more than anything else. It’s starting to look like they’re only good for padding the gear gap rather than actually making something helpful. My primary example was the 502 reborn weapons in 5.2. It took over a month to unlock them on my old server (wyrmrest accord) and another month to make one. By then most people seemed to have something equivalent or better than what I could sell them. The crafted 553 gear was a similar situation. Between world bosses and SoO drops my crafted gear was useless by the time it was available.

        Alchemy, enchanting, and jewel crafting almost seem to offer more raiding perks than anything else. Engineering offers an incredibly fun and unique experience. If the engineering guns turn out to be BoP I will have a dilemma trying to decide if I should re-level something for the sake of mog or a BiS piece or keep a profession I’ve put a lot of work into that doesn’t offer much of a benefit. I really hope it doesn’t come down to that.

  3. Marksmanship (Critical Hit):

    Without consumables/enchants: 32.5% chance to crit
    With full consumables/enchants: 43% chance to crit

    I like that “forecast”

  4. Bit of a necro here, but the Scope post brought me back and got me thinking.

    I have two issues with this method of stat customization. First, the auction house will control how much it costs me to customize my gear the way I want, provided it has the scrolls I want in the first place.

    Second, there is no way to salvage a bad drop for your character, like a Versa/Mastery piece for MM or anything without Multistrike for SV. Since you can only control the additional stats, rather than the base stats, those 1105 points are the only points you will be able to customize the entire expansion.

    When we get to Tier 19 or 20 those 1105 points will matter a lot less than they do in questing blues.

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